Posts by IT Support

Dear Belinda : At the risk of sounding vain, I am considered very attractive, but I don't think that I have the inner-beauty and peace that I would like or that would be pleasing to the Lord. I've tried everything from full-body immersion baptisms to yoga. I think some of my friends are starting to think I am shallow. Any suggestions to make me complete? Striving in Syracuse
Dear Striving: So, you have Outer-Beauty, but no Inner-Beauty? Well, 9 out of 10 is never bad, especially when you are before a criminal jury. The lovely thing about Inner-Beauty is that it takes people much longer to realize you don't have any. Trust me. Time is therefore on your side. If you don't dawdle, before your acquaintances reach the cusp of the realization that God has placed you on this planet merely for ornamental purposes, you may be able to finesse an approximation of inner-peace that they will find plausible. May I suggest you use my very own 10 Steps to Inner-Peace as a guide (liberally altering items to suit your whim, budget and attention span): 1. Read a good book - like the Neiman-Marcus catalog. Or, if pressed for time, read a really descriptive menu. 2. Instead of a soggy, coif-destroying baptism in water of questionable content (I wouldn't share an airplane cabin with most of those people), may I suggest a full-body baptism in paraffin or herbal clays, preferably in Italy administered by a man who has the most embarrassing trouble staying in his Spa tunic. (Note for additional inner-peace: never quite get around to pointing this out to him). 3. Use spare cocktail napkins to finally finish that more "peppy" translation of Proust's Remembrance of Things Past, working in that new dishy chapter about the night in September of 1997 when Queen Elizabeth II was doing shots at the Hemingway Bar at the Ritz Hotel in Paris with a chauffeur called Henri and said to him, "All 12 rounds are on us, love. What do you mean you aren't going to do another shot of tequila? Come on, are you some sort of nancy-boy? Going to let an old queen drink you under the table? That's better, love! Oh, we think we just saw Diana, you better run along and drive!" 4. Call someone you haven't spoken to in years and are awkwardly estranged from just to say, "I know you never knew anything about it, but I wanted to say I'm sorry about sleeping with most of your husbands. There, I feel much better. Isn't honesty so cathartic? So glad we're talking again. Have a lovely day." 5. Tour Wisconsin with "Up with People" until the closeted conductor/chaperone traces the mildly inconvenient sexually transmitted malady that debilitates the curious altos and the cuter baritones to you and you are asked, once again, to leave the tour before getting to play Madison. 6. Have Donna Karan design a series of understated saris suitable for administering to the sad people of the streets of Calcutta during a stopover long weekend on your way to the Four Seasons in Bali to take your mind off those unfortunate souls who don't realize that room service should never close. 7. Draw up a list of assorted people who have failed to sufficiently acknowledge you at parties over the last ten years. Invite them over for a very special dinner to finally determine exactly which meats are safe to serve raw. 8. Go back to Australia, Romania and Brazil to conduct yet another "sampling" in your study "Who are the Most Passionate Twenty-Year-Olds in the World?" just to triple-check the accuracy of the results. 9. Make a list of all the people you are encouraged to stone to death in the Old Testament, remembering that actions speak louder than words. 10. Order stones and have them delivered. If none of the above seems to give you the inner-beauty that will withstand the scrutiny of your acquaintances, may I suggest that you look for less intrusive friends? True beauty is, after all, only skin deep, which should be good enough for anyone, as, indeed, few men ever see the need to venture any further anyway. You asked for it, Belinda You may write to Belinda at [email protected] with your questions and comments

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Presiding Overseer Says They Will Ask If You Still Want To Be A Jehovah's W

by minimus in

jw
friends

the local needs talk on thursday discussed a few different things, according to my mom.

but the one that stood out most was that he announced that based on the new book, the elders will be checking on those that have not been associating with the congregation for some time.

they will ask, "do you still want to be a jehovah's witness?

IT Support

EvilForce,

Why do you think they are taking such a hardline stance? Once faded do they think that person will access the internet to find out the real reasons JW's aren't Jahs people? So by cutting them off as apostates the damage can be mitigated? Thoughts?

The main problem from WT's point of view is that so long as 'faders' are neither d/f nor d/a, the 'loyal' r&f are free to talk to them, and the 'faders' are free to feed them insidious apostate propaganda.

By insisting that all such 'faders' are d/f or d/a, the GB is ensuring that the flock is 'protected,' i.e. insulated from any such disquieting thoughts.

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Here's the script for the Korah, Dathan, Abiram drama

by Bonnie_Clyde in

brother loyal: well, .

brother loyal: what do you mean?.

brother loyal: well, the watchtower.. .

IT Support

Bonnie_Clyde ,

Thank you, that's superb! It would be great to have the rest of the script.

Do you have a scanner? You could save a lot of typing...

Regards.

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Revenge of the Jedi - Quotes site PR campaign

by EscapedLifer1 in

jw
friends

greetings folks, .

well, the big pr blitz about the wtbts legal threats to shut down the quotes website has begun.

we are sending the first wave of copies of the press release (text below) to the following news outlets.

IT Support

Quotes / EscapedLifer1,

Are you adding the Press Release to your News & Updates page? May I suggest you do?

I thought it might be useful to be able to link to it.

(The Press Release itself is excellent, by the way!)

Best wishes.

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Prove to me that the Watchtower is the "Faithful +discreet slave class"

by hubert in

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i credit this to "cinemablend" for giving me the thought.. prove to me that the watchtower is the "faithful and discreet slave class', to which the j.w's have to obey down to the letter.. who can "prove" or "disprove" this?.

hubert

IT Support

A guy called Don Cameron wrote a superb book that surgically dissects WT's claims to be the FDS. It is called "Captives of a Concept." It is a must-read if you've any doubts yourself, or if you need help to explain it to someone.

www.captivesofaconcept.com

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Witness Inc books and booklets

by IT Support in

i recently received a duplicate order of some books and booklets from witness inc. rather than further postage charges to return everything to the us, is anyone in the uk interested in buying them from me?

please pm me.

the items i have are:-

IT Support

I recently received a duplicate order of some books and booklets from Witness Inc. Rather than further postage charges to return everything to the US, is anyone in the UK interested in buying them from me? Please pm me.

The items I have are:-

#386 THE MONEYMAKERS: Magnani. An historical survey DOCUMENTING the money-making scheme of the Watchtower Society and the financial corruption of JW leaders throughout history. Read about the false "profit"! £5.50
#486 CHARLES TAZE RUSSELL--CHILD MOLESTER: Magnani. The Watch tower Society's first president was accused by his wife , Maria, of carrying on an immoral relationship with a young teenage girl. Here are the shocking facts from the divorce case, Russell vs. Russell. £3.50
#OM1 THE OLIN MOYLE COURT CASE (1943): In 1943, former Watchtower Society attorney, Olin R. Moyle sued the leaders of JWs and won! Some 2,000 pages of court testimony exposing Watchtower corruption, lies, coverups and immorality at Bethel headquarters and much, much more! It reads like a book. More exciting than Perry Mason! £8.50
#R01 SOME FACTS AND MORE FACTS ABOUT THE SELF-STYLED "PASTOR" CHARLES T. RUSSELL: J.J. Ross (1912, 1920 edition). The famous booklet exposing C.T. Russell's: divorce case; evasion of alimony payments; immoral conduct with the child Rose Ball; fight with the Brooklyn Daily Eagle newspaper; financial empire exposed. Russell sued Ross for libel and the case was thrown out of court on Russell's own testimony! £3.00
#R02 THE SEVEN THUNDERS OF THE MILLENNIAL DAWN: B.H. Shadduck (1928). The JWs refused to debate early cult-fighter, Dr. Shadduck. Why? Because he wanted to quote from their own literature! His booklet is filled with damaging information proving the JWs are false teachers and false prophets. Shadduck was the first to publish photo-documents of the JW false prophecies and changes in prophecies (between their book editions). A detailed analysis of the crazy statements on the JW books #285 The Finished Mystery and #185 Millions Now Living Will Never Die. £3.00
#R03 ALL ABOUT ONE RUSSELL: Charles C. Cook (c1914). Cook cites C.T. Russell's self-worship as the so-called "faithful and wise servant" (Mt. 24:45) Russell claimed to be the most important Christian that God was using to teach the Church. Cook exposes Russell's phoney and highly publicized world missions tour "investigation", etc., etc. £3.00
#R04 MORE DATA ON "PASTOR RUSSELL": Charles C. Cook (c1914). Information on Russell's court case with The Brooklyn Daily Eagle. Russell did not make a defense! Russell left Pittsburgh to avoid paying alimony. Russell slandered J.J. Ross' character. Ross is defended by high-ranking Baptists. Russell apologized for giving out false information on Ross, then repeats it!, etc, etc. £3.00
#R13 JUDGE "FOR 4 DAYS" RUTHERFORD: Edward L. Curran (1940). Exposing the history of former Watchtower president and founder of the modern JWs, Joseph F. Rutherford. Was he really a "judge"? A look at the $-making Watchtower Society. Many strange biblical interpretations analyzed. Much information on Rutherford's tactics of hate toward non-JWs. £2.00

Post and packing will be extra, at cost. Specify if you want first or second class post.

Payment only by postal order.

(See http://www.witnessinc.com/ordering%20materials.html )

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I'm telling lies from the stage

by DannyBloem in

i recently gave a public talk, and i really felt bad about it.. it was the public talk about the great flood of noahs days.

the is so much evidence that this great deluge never happened, but that is something you can't tell the audience from the stage.

(i will tell about that evidence if people are interested, but it is a bit off-topic now).

IT Support

Danny,

I can sympathise with you and the position you now find yourself in. Let me first say there are no easy answers, and irrespective of whatever you decide to do, any course of action--or even inaction, if that's what you decide--is going to be painful. However, if you value you personal integrity, the end result is definitely worth it. One further piece of advice: remember, you choose the speed of change, don't move on until you are happy with what you're currently doing.

First, take your wife into your confidence (as it sounds like you haven't yet). You may wish to break things to her gently, by saying things like, "I don't understand what this Watchtower means--I thought the Society said... etc." (Eg you might like to explain to her some things you found 'puzzling' while preparing your Flood public talk.) I'd suggest it is imperative to get her on your side and to understand that your only criteria is the truth--you simply want to do what is right. However, it may take some time, and a lot of communication, to win her round and get her to understand your new point of view. It will probably take even longer until you are able to share everything that is in your heart. But I'd suggest it's worth taking the time to lay a solid foundation for your new life together.

Second, repeat the first step with your children, if applicable.

Third, start now making new friends outside the organisation. It may be neighbours, local community groups, volunteer to help out in a local community project. But this is important because as soon as your old JW 'friends' start getting a whiff that you are cooling off, they'll drop you in an instant. One of two special friends will keep in touch with you, but prepare yourself now for the inevitable eventuality that the rest will abandon you. No need to shed a tear for their passing, for their casual abandonment will display the depth of their genuine affection for you.

Fourth, repeat step one with the rest of your JW family.

Fifth, stop going out in field service. For my last year in field service, I stopped offering magazines at all and just talked to people from the Bible, simply saying that many people found it a source of great comfort and could I share a thought with them? I used to read John 3:16 or Acts 24:15 and ask them what this meant to them, all the while being rather non-committal myself about what they meant.

Sixth, step down as an elder. If you have been successful in speaking to all your family and they at least understand your reasons and agree not to shun you if you disassociate yourself, then you can just tell the body you are leaving--they have no further hold on you.

However, if you have been less successful talking with your family, you will have to be more prudent. (If your sense of outrage at WT prohibits you remaining an elder this long, before step two tell the elders you'd like to go on 'temporary leave' to sort out some personal problems. This will give you some breathing space without constantly feeling guilty for being a hypocrite every time you're on the platform.) If you have health issues, that can be used. I personally told them that I was struggling with my belief ini God and wanted to step down to 'regain my spirituality.'

Finally, you just have to quietly fade away, for the first year miss one meeting a week, miss two meetings a week for the second year, and so on. If you really want to disappear off their radar screens, you can even move to the other side of the country and don't tell anyone in your old hall where you've gone.

Hope this helps. Feel free to ask any questions.